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For beginners, pneumatic weapons represent the most optimal solution, since they do not require a special license. To choose the best option, you should consider the characteristics of the most popular rifle models. Knowing certain parameters makes buying a powerful air rifle easier.
Conversations about pneumatics - 13
Another “happy” customer of Ataman pcp expresses his satisfaction with the quality of the product :)))
WhatsApp correspondence with the “lucky one”. The correspondence has been merged from several screenshots into one for easier reading.
“I love” evaluative statements from all sorts of suckers: “The stem looks very strange, but it seems good”
Guys, if the stem had not been strange in appearance, would it have already been good? Is that how it is defined? Do you determine the quality of a barrel by appearance? Very very….
HOW DO YOU DETERMINE IF HE IS GOOD OR NOT?! HOW DO YOU DO THIS? You don’t understand ANYTHING about this at all, what are you talking about? My God... People simply have no brains in their heads....
Since we all like to erase, hide and hide, especially if it’s paid for, then just in case I’ll save forum
. Screenshots taken from open sources, enjoy.
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The biggest misconception of newcomers to air rifles is to think that if your buddy is doing well, the rifle shoots and hits, then it will be the same for you. NO FUCK that's not true. The rifles are different, you can buy the same model and fuck with it endlessly in search of that same “I hit 100 meters”, without having the required accuracy even for 60-80m
They often call: “Oh, I saw a full-bodied PCP huntsman from a friend, tried it, saw how it works at 100m and bought it for myself”….
Favorite stupid logic that makes every fool think that everything will be screwed up in the same way - I repeat once again for the stupid ones - this is NOT guaranteed. You may come across a sample that does not satisfy you at all and that’s all, if you like to live with rose-colored glasses, that’s your right, but I warned you with this message. I got a lucky one - good, thank the gods. Bad luck? Well, OK…
- Stupid question: “So, why don’t they shoot them? Apparently they don’t shoot them, or they shoot them selectively.”
It’s even more amazing when a person brings a rifle that has crap accuracy and asks me this moronic question: “Why aren’t they checked? Why does she shoot so poorly? — THE ANSWER IS OBVIOUS, IDIOT. Either they don't check or they don't give a damn about the results. I don’t know what needs to happen for this category of people to learn to draw such basic conclusions. Judging by the experience of many years, stupidity cannot be cured and it is useless to explain anything to such idiots; it is very difficult to put something consisting of more than 5-6 words into their small box with gears called “head”. Sometimes you speak and you can clearly hear the grinding of gears in the head, as one somewhere gets caught on something and prevents the mechanism from working. A macaque sits inside and tries to scratch a few words on a piece of wood, losing important points and meaning, grasping only short words that it sometimes manages to write down. EE-EE-EE-EE-EEEE “reservoir”…. uh-uh-uh “gearbox” uh-uh-uh “chok” uh-uh-uh “full body is cool” uh-uh-uh “straight flow” uh- uh-uh “trigger” uh-uh-uh “adjust the plateau” uh-uh-uh “flows”...
When you buy without real shooting (which was carried out before you) - you are always playing the lottery, what you were “told” doesn’t mean shit. They also write on fences. It seems strange to me to explain such obvious things to seemingly adult people, but NO, 70-80% of clients really do not understand such basic things.
You have to chew everything like a little child.
explain obvious things to a person who has (seemingly) not been living for the first day.
And only this fact makes me write all this gimmick here, because if at least 10% of people read this and at least half of them understand at least something with their empty heads, this will greatly help me get rid of 50% of the moronic questions generated incredible naivety and stupidity of people.
Regarding my work, I address potential clients
:
For the underdeveloped, I’m translating from Russian into yours:
If I said the period for work is 10-12 days, this means that for 12 days you don’t need to touch me in any way, don’t call, don’t clarify, don’t jerk off, don’t “I’m just asking” and other idiotic fucking reasons for completely unnecessary tugging. There is NO NEED to bother you with messages every day either.
Why am I writing this? I'll explain.
approximately half (50%) of clients DO NOT understand the meaning of the word “deadline”.
Real life example:
You tell the person the time limit: “4-5 days.”
The next day a call: “So how are things going there??”
You politely send with the words: “We seem to have agreed on the timing.”
A completely ordinary answer from the average moron: “Well, I’m just asking.”
why “JUST ASK”???!!!!!!! If you were clearly told 4-5 days.
DON'T "JUST ASK", DISTRACT ME AND PULL ME, DON'T
, I’ll figure it out and cope without you. Without reminders, jerk-offs and moronic bells. EMPTY calls simply distract, interfere, make you lose concentration at work, wipe your dirty hands, pick up the phone, get it dirty, sometimes drop it, then answer idiotic useless questions that won’t change ANYTHING in fact, it won’t make you any faster.
IF suddenly for some incredible reasons, cosmic storms and alien help I manage to do it faster, I am MORE THAN ABLE to call or write MYSELF
. I did it earlier - I TELLED YOU. This is how it works.
I'll let you know when I'm ready
— I’ll write to WhatsApp (the best option) or call.
Because of such idiots, the desire to help anyone completely disappears, because people are sometimes hemorrhoids out of the blue, problems out of nowhere and a headache.
If you have an awl in your ass or someone is poking needles in your balls while your favorite balloon is not around, and therefore you definitely want to “JUST ASK” something, then JUST DO NOT contact me.
If your ass is always burning from idleness, then you don’t need to contact me, much less call me. I can’t stand such “clients”; they regularly fly into emergencies.
Let's save each other time and nerves. Thank you for understanding.
I do this not because I miss communicating with idiots, but because I love what I do, but I hate wasting time, I hate empty chatter, and being distracted by trifles.
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Finishing up a stylish huntsman
, the new one from the factory was too tight and twitchy, they brought it in for finishing. After some simple magic, the client is satisfied with the result.
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Work on the trunk
, an example of my work on finishing the bore:
rifle Ataman M2r carbine 5.5mm
before and after my work, shooting for accuracy at 50 meters, on the left 8-10 bullets, on the right after work two groups of 5 bullets.
below there was 5-6cm spread:
lower as it became, easy and stable at 18-20mm
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Work on the trunk
, an example of my work on finishing the bore:
rifle Kral R-Romentone carbine 5.5mm
fine-tuning the bore, shooting for accuracy at 50m after work, two groups of 5 bullets each:
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User reviews about the pcp rifle “Anchutka”
reviews taken from the weapons forum talks.guns.ru
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pcp rifle Air Arms S510-SL cal 4.5mm
(England)
in the photo is an Air Arms s510-sl rifle after repair and fine-tuning with a Bushnell Trophy 3-9×40 mildot reticle sight installed by me (the owner bought and brought this sight for installation on my recommendation)
a solid, fairly high-quality rifle with usually very good barrels (95% of these rifles out of the box easily assemble a bunch of 20-25mm from 5 bullets at 50m)
They brought it in for repairs, it pisses very slowly (poisons), in 10 days it releases about 5-10 atm. The rifle is 6-7 years old, so it has held up quite well.
It is easy to repair, easily and quickly disassembled - this is a huge plus, the threads are well made - neatly and with grooves for ease of unscrewing, although they do not use lubricant - after the work I still lubricated the threads with silicone without additives, then it will be much easier to disassemble (after 2- 3 years)
The most difficult thing to unscrew was the front plug, but not too much trouble.
The rifle is light, the stock is good, the finishing inside is good, but finishing is still desirable. I showed the client on WhatsApp what could be completed - he asked to do it right away, the work was inexpensive because it was not complicated.
I finalized the firing pin guide - it was made rather poorly, the British didn’t try very hard here.
I finalized the filling valve - it was not made very carefully, although it is reliable in itself. Now it will be even better.
The drummer was finished off - it could have been done better too.
I finished the firing pin shaft with some light sanding.
I brought it to mind - the mainspring and the valve spring - both springs are made poorly, they lift up the seats - a black mixture is formed on the firing pin during operation (shown by a pink arrow in the photo below) - small particles of metal scratched by the spring from the firing pin stick together under the influence of lubricant, and this mess prevents the drummer from working normally.
After the work, the platoon became simply divine. This is not the first airarm, people have quite a lot of them and I can already say with confidence that overall the rifle is good and evokes pleasant emotions both in terms of reliability and accuracy.
The tank is steel, it corrodes, but slowly even when stored like “Russian style” - fuck it, throw it in the garage and fuck it with a horse. Although defeated goblins rarely buy such rifles. With normal storage it won't hurt, everything is super reliable and good.
Working pressure is usually 200-120 atm. Plus minus.
The trigger is close to sporty, between soft and medium - the trigger is very comfortable and well made. The USM is reliable and well-treated thermally; it will last and outlast 5-6 such rifles.
I recommend purchasing
AirArms
for those who have a normal-length dick and don’t need to compensate for its size with the mega-power of a rifle. If you were fucked in the toilet at school, and now your complexes and childhood insults do not allow you to have something normal, but tell you to take everything more powerful than everyone else and longer than everyone else, and you vitally need everything constantly for someone To prove something, then look for something else. I recommend this rifle to those who don’t want to bother with all the legwork and settings - it will work right out of the box and is a reliable tool for pain-free use. After fine-tuning, it becomes an almost ideal rifle with even greater reliability and durability. Costs reasonable money.
Of the minuses
- there are 2 of them
1.
it does not imply enormous power, it will not be possible to drive them too hard, this is barbarism.
- in cal 4.5mm is a good speed for 0.67g - 280-285 cape, no more needed.
- in cal 5.5mm is better than 265-270 cape - that’s enough
- in caliber 6.35mm, if you find one, you will be glad if you get 250-260 - it doesn’t give any higher, it’s rather weak, the rifle was clearly designed for calibers 4.5mm and 5.5mm
It is enough for the eyes on long-eared, feathered birds, including your favorite armored crows up to 60-70m in 4.5 and up to 80-100m in 5.5mm
Red / cunning will lie down to 50-60 m
I’ll immediately answer the most pressing question of modern “ministers” and other plankton: “with AirArms full-bodied bullets
You can't shoot.
Because." That's it, you don't have to read any further . For you bunch of sheep, this is the main parameter, and the rifle has become shit
Why am I clarifying this?
Because now there are a lot of suckers who think that a 6.35mm shuttlecock with an energy of 60-80 acorns may not be powerful enough to “break through a crow’s wing”
... how often do I have to say on this topic that a crow’s wing is not made of Kevlar and it does not require a lot of energy. All these myths are born when shooting shot from shitty guns at long distances - the shot quickly loses its energy and can actually “bounce” even from the wings. When shooting with a bullet, energy, of course, is also lost, just not so quickly and there is still enough of it to spare.
And, of course, the first thing they think is that this is where the FUCKING FUCKING BODY is needed. Downs you are brainless. To pierce the wing of the grays, 7-8 acorns of 4.5 mm with a margin will be enough. When you get into the bochin vorontasu
, and
it flies away
,
this does NOT mean that the wing is not broken
, it means that it will fall back later,
you just didn’t hit the right place
for it to fall right away... period. Remember this as a prayer and don't be stupid. Your moronic fantasies about a lack of power are simply a consequence of your stupidity and ignorance.
When another mental retard concludes that “he didn’t break through the wing,” I suggest he shoot himself in the foot to look at the result and eliminate the stupidest questions about power. Any modern perfumed pcp will have enough for your fucking wings up to 80-100m, empty-headed damage. Your conclusions are too unambiguous and corridor-like, you don’t even try to look at the situation differently. There isn't even any doubt.
“If it flew away, it means it didn’t hit”
- this is a conclusion at the level of a 3rd grade child, how do you live to be 40-50 years old with such brains??
2.
The original built-in muffler is small in volume and cannot be called quiet.
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Customer question
— Hello, Alexander, I cleaned the barrel of my “jaeger”, poured ballistol into the barrel from the side of the muzzle, placed a patch with fishing line in advance in the bypass area, pulled it in the direction of the movement of the bullet. Shortly thereafter, the rifle began bleeding air through the barrel.
Answer
- This is called cleaning the barrel in a stupid way. With this option, the ballistol could easily get into the bypass and further onto the valve and valve stem. Therefore, he could start to piss - the consequence of such a leak is always the release of air through the barrel, which is what you observe. The valve stem and the valve itself run dry, this is their normal condition. The ingress of ballistol, which becomes “soap” over time or at a certain temperature, is, of course, unacceptable. You are a fool, congratulations. Enjoy the results of your activities. Disassemble the rifle carefully, wipe it dry, degrease the valve and seat, or better yet, give it to someone who knows how to do all this. If after your highly qualified “work” speed jumps of 6-8 m/s appear, then you screwed up here too
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Customer question
— Hello, Alexander, I myself changed the rubber bands on the “cricket”, I adjusted the gearbox by eye - I screwed the black pin into the same position as it was, and measured it with a caliper.
My speed dropped - it was 265
, but now after work
it’s 250
. What can be wrong? Could it be the spring?
Answer
- The reason could be anything - it could also be in the mainspring, but it’s very unlikely - the fact is that before your “MOT” it gave its normal 265, and while you were doing it the spring couldn’t deteriorate, you’re in a vice They didn't squeeze, I hope.
Incorrect assembly - the barrel or firing pin was simply installed incorrectly.
The gearbox has been adjusted incorrectly - this is a very precise piece of shit and any rotation of the black “pin” by 10-15 degrees will give such a deviation in the setting that you can forget about the normal speed. Even with a caliper, the operation still works out immediately only in 1 case out of 5, in my experience, it’s very easy to make a mistake, so I use a stand to adjust the gearboxes, because measurements with a caliper in our conditions are very inaccurate, and therefore it’s almost impossible to set it perfectly, although this It happens. Make allowances for your handiness and lack of experience, and you will get the appropriate result.
And also, I hope that you didn’t lubricate the drummer with your grandfather’s grease.
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Customer question
— On new crickets the trigger is made of plastic, it seems to me that this means that the trigger is now also made of plastic, how reliable and durable is this?
Answer
- the conclusions are just fucked up... Of course, the trigger is steel and hardened. No one, not even the most disgusting manufacturer, makes a device out of plastic, because it will instantly fail, there are significant loads and there would be random shots due to the sear breaking and other reasons. Changing the trigger material does not mean changing the trigger material AT ALL, that's your own nonsense.
The plastic trigger, when pressed (if no changes have been made to the rifle), experiences an average load of 170-175 grams, which means that even if it were twice as thin, it would not be in any danger. Its task is to pull the rod; the steel part of the device does the rest.
The device is made of steel, the same as before, it does not break and its reliability allows it to survive 2-3 of your rifles without any breakdowns, so there is nothing to be afraid of.
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Types of air rifles
Of course, not only a beginner, but also an experienced shooter wants to purchase a weapon that is not only powerful, but also accurate, and not particularly expensive. The most powerful air rifles don't have to be expensive. At the moment, it is quite possible to choose an inexpensive but high-quality option.
Many have been to the most ordinary shooting range and probably remember weapons with a spring-piston mechanism. This operating principle has been tested for many generations. Models of rifles in this group are low cost and easy to operate. They are quite durable and of high quality and represent the best option for those who are just beginning their acquaintance with weapons.
There are popular models of Hatsan PSR type air rifles. They represent a more powerful group of weapons and must be pre-charged with air.
Air rifle MP512
Weapons can have a caliber from 4.5 to 5.5 mm. True, the latter can only be purchased with a specialized license. This pneumatic model is a fairly reliable and easy-to-use option.
The MP512 air rifle has a special lever located directly under the barrel or on the side. It charges the spring. This operation can also be performed due to a fracture of the trunk. There is no play, since the barrel has a very secure mount.
Types of air gun systems
A distinctive feature of any pneumatic gun is the method of compressing the gas acting on the bullet. Modern designs use the air pressure created when cocking a rifle, or the available supply of compressed or liquefied gas in a cylinder.
Spring-piston (PPP)
Spring-piston system design
The most common and versatile type of air gun. The principle of operation is based on the compression of air inside a cylindrical chamber by a piston equipped with a dense cuff. During preparation, the piston in the cylinder is retracted to its rearmost position, in which it is held by the trigger mechanism.
The most common mechanisms are those with a broken barrel, although over time this design develops play and decreases accuracy. The downside of the system is the high recoil, which makes it difficult to use optical sights.
Multicompression (MC)
Multi-compression system design
They use air compression in the chamber before firing. Pressure is generated by manual movement of a lever located on the side of the weapon or integrated into the fore-end. Compressed air is retained without loss of pressure for longer the newer the rifle.
Depending on the number of movements made by the pump lever, the initial speed of the bullet and the flatness of the trajectory change. This type of weapon has a relatively high variation in height, which is caused by the difficulty of obtaining constant pressure.
CO2 rifles
CO2 system design
They use the expansion energy of carbon dioxide formed during the evaporation of liquid carbon dioxide. The ability to store CO2 in liquefied form allows you to make a large number of shots - for a container of one volume, the mass of liquid is always greater than the mass of compressed gas.
The evaporated carbon dioxide from the cylinder enters a small chamber, from which it is released when fired. The pressure in the chamber at a constant temperature varies slightly, almost independently of the gas flow. Changing the temperature changes the speed of the bullet, as well as the flatness of the trajectory and penetrating force.
The disadvantages of CO2 rifles include the inability to simultaneously shoot frequently and accurately. When carbon dioxide expands, the pneumatic system cools greatly, which leads to a decrease in gas pressure in the chamber and the speed of the bullet
With pre-inflation (PCP – pre-charged pneumatics)
Pre-pumping (PCP) system design
This type of rifle is equipped with a cylinder into which high-pressure gas (above 200 atm) is pumped. To fill the cylinder, a compressor, manual pumping or stationary large-capacity cylinders are used.
PCP circuits are used in the production of expensive and accurate sporting rifles. Using a reducer to maintain constant pressure in the working chamber allows for the most effective shooting.
Air rifle Hatsan 125
This model is one of the most popular options. Almost everyone knows him. The Khatsan 125 air rifle, the price of which is quite attractive, has gained popularity among the mass audience due to its power, which significantly exceeds that of the domestic MP 512. Compared to this model, the Khatsan has a softer trigger, a perfect appearance and weighs less than its domestic counterpart.
Therefore, based on power indicators, Hatsan is the best option for both beginners and professionals. High power indicators allow you to shoot at longer distances and even use the rifle for hunting game.
Pneumatic weapons today are high-quality and popular pneumatic models that are used in sports, hunting, and also for self-defense.
