Main battle tank T-84 "Oplot-M" (object 478DU10) (Ukraine)

T-84
is a Ukrainian main battle tank, a further development of the T-80UD[2].

Story

Work on modernizing the T-80UD tank began in 1992[2].

The first prototype of the T-84 was created at the end of 1994 (a total of two[3] or several prototypes were manufactured)[4].

In April 1995, a demonstration model of the T-84 tank was presented at the IDEX-95 arms exhibition[5].

In 2000, the T-84 was officially adopted by the Ukrainian army[2].

Subsequently, in 2000, work on the T-84 was stopped, since the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine decided to begin work on a new type of main tank, which resulted in the Oplot-M tank (on May 28, 2009, adopted by the Ukrainian army under the name BM "Oplot")[2].

In 2002, state tests of the “Contrast” camouflage design took place (the developers of which were the V. N. Karazin Kharkov National University, the Institute of Automated Systems and the Sevastopol enterprise “Modern Fiber Technologies”). The armored vehicle on which the Contrast kit was installed during testing was the T-84 tank[6].

In August 2013, the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine authorized the removal from the balance of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of both T-84 tanks (one T-84 “object 478DU2” based on the T-80UD manufactured in 1992 and one T-84 “object 478DU4” manufactured in 1999) and intended for sale at 399 thousand hryvnia (cheaper than the T-64B1)[7].

Air intake and purification system

The air intake hole is necessary for a constant supply of air and the formation of the fuel-air mixture, which is necessary for the smooth operation of the engine.
In addition, modern vehicles of this type (Oplot and T-90 tanks), thanks to the same system, can overcome bodies of water up to 1.8 meters deep without preliminary preparation. The device for purifying the supplied air consists of two main components: centrifugal-type coarse filters, as well as the air cleaner cassette itself. The manufacturer reports that the machine can travel up to a thousand kilometers in dusty areas or radioactive contamination without the need to replace filters.

Modifications

• T-84
  (object 478DU2) - the basic version, developed in the first half of the 1990s[8].
• T-84U
  (object 478BE) - modernization of the T-84 with a new armored side skirt, a new welded turret, dynamic protection for the Kontakt-5 turret, an auxiliary power unit (APU), a thermal imaging sight, satellite navigation, a laser rangefinder for the commander and other improvements;
• T-84U “Oplot”
  (object 478DU9) - the tank received a new welded-rolled turret with an all-stamped roof, made from electroslag remelting, due to which it has higher strength and “survivability”.
  Taking into account the simpler shape of the tower, it was possible to successfully place multi-layer armor in it. Its internal volume was also increased. A new Ukrainian-made 3rd generation dynamic protection “Knife” was placed in the frontal projection of the tower. Equipped with Ukrainian-made dynamic and active protection, foreign-made aiming devices, and enlarged side screens. Passed tests and was adopted by the Ukrainian Army; at least five vehicles were manufactured in 2001. BM "Oplot" ("Oplot-M")
  (object 478DU9-1) is the latest modernized modification of the T-84 with improved mobility and security.
  It was not mass-produced; the only copy of the machine was converted from 478DU9. BM "Oplot-T" ("Oplot-T")
  (object 478DU9-T) - serial "Oplot-T" for Thailand, differs from 478DU9-1 in the installation of air conditioning and APU.

“Childhood diseases” and “brain drain”

On June 25, commenting on the last place of the Ukrainian Armed Forces team, the head of the combat training department of the Ground Forces of the Russian Armed Forces, Major General Roman Binyukov, explained the failure of the 14th brigade to “the low quality of production and the unsatisfactory combat capabilities of Ukrainian tanks, as well as the insufficient level of training of tank crews.”

According to the military leader, failures of the fire control system, stabilization and loading mechanisms of the gun and other “childhood illnesses” of the T-84 “only caused a feeling of disappointment for the once famous Kharkov school of tank building.”

• Tank T-84U "Oplot" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

In a conversation with RT, military columnist for Arsenal of the Fatherland magazine Dmitry Drozdenko stated that the T-84s sent to Germany did not pass the necessary checks for the serviceability of equipment and weapons systems.

“NATO biathlon is much simpler than Russian biathlon. It seems to me that foreign guests would not be able to reach the finish line, competing according to our rules. However, even at such a tournament, Ukraine failed. However, I do not undertake to judge the level of training of the crew. In my opinion, there are systemic problems in the army and the defense complex,” explained Drozdenko.

“The main problem here is the brain drain from the defense industry and the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is generally accepted that Ukraine experiences the greatest difficulties in the design and creation of new weapons. But based on the example of competitions in Germany, one can judge that the degradation of industry no longer allows for the repair of combat vehicles. And Kyiv is unlikely to overcome such problems in the foreseeable future,” Drozdenko concluded.

Performance characteristics

“The management system failed”

The failure of the Ukrainian Armed Forces at the Strong Europe Tank Challenge caused a great stir due to videos that appeared on YouTube made by tankers of the 14th Volyn Mechanized Brigade. The servicemen, using obscene language, demonstrated to the Internet audience all the defects in the mechanics of the Oplots.

Later, the commander of the tank company, Captain Roman Bagaev, explained to journalists that at the competition, the military personnel were let down by a jammed loading mechanism, a gun that “shaked” after firing, and “sparking” wiring. As a result, the team was unable to hit many targets.

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According to the officer, during the “Tank platoon on the offensive” stage, only one of the four guns fired. At the same time, the “lucky” gun was able to fire 16 of the 40 shells that made up the tank’s ammunition load. But what surprised Bagaev most of all was the behavior of the gun - it was shaking due to a faulty stabilization system.

“In three of our tanks, the guns were at the loading angle, because the sensors did not fully work. Also, the fire control system in two tanks failed - there was no stabilization of the gun, it moved after each shot. You don’t touch the control panel, but it shakes. How can I get 1.5 km with this?” — Bagayev asked a rhetorical question in an interview with the Ukrainian portal “New Army”.

In the video recordings, you can see that in addition to the listed malfunctions, Ukrainian tank crews experienced difficulties operating their vehicles due to problems with the fuel system. The T-84 instruments refused to show the amount of oil, and the tachometer sensor was inoperative.

The captain is sure that the last place in the competition is a consequence of the mistakes of the team of the Kharkov plant named after. Malyshev, which produces and repairs tanks. The state-owned enterprise workers who arrived with the military personnel were unable to repair the loading sensors and eliminate other defects on the spot.

• Workers of the plant named after. Malysheva at the celebration of Embroidery Day

As Ukrainian media found out, the national team competed in competitions in Germany using four tanks manufactured back in 2001. At the beginning of March 2020, the Kharkov plant, after a major overhaul and partial modernization, transferred six T-84s to the 14th brigade. Four of these cars were sent to competitions in Germany.

However, the tankers did not have time to hone their skills on the Oplots.

Armament

• 125 mm smoothbore gun 2A46M-1 (with stabilizer 2E42)

• ammunition: total - 43, in MZ - 28.

• 7.62-mm coaxial machine gun PKT or its Ukrainian copy KT-7.62:

• ammunition - 1250.

• Anti-aircraft gun PZU-7:

• 12.7 mm NSVT machine gun or its Ukrainian copy KT-12.7[9];
• ammunition - 450 (three belts of 150 rounds each);
• remote control;
• vertical stabilization.

Fire control system, sighting devices

Like all modern MBTs, the Oplot tank, the characteristics of which are discussed in the article, has on board a high-quality fire control system, which allows you to fire at both stationary and moving objects with a high probability of hitting a target with the first shot. The 1G46M is used as a gunner's sight, there is a Buran-Katrin-E sight with a thermal imager, a PNK-5 commander's observation and sighting system, and a PZU-7 anti-aircraft sight. For remote control of anti-aircraft systems, the 1ETs29M complex is used.

In addition, the Ukrainian T-84U Oplot tank is equipped with a LIO-V ballistic computer, as well as a 2E42M gun stabilizer. All these devices together form an extremely effective system, which makes it possible to effectively hit targets in any weather and climatic conditions, as well as at any time of the day.

Tanks from other countries

Comparative performance characteristics of modern main tanks

Notes

1. The Military Balance 2020, p.210
2. ↑ 1234
   colonel R. Bashynskyi, chief of the Central Armored Directorate Forces Support Command (Ukrainian Armed Forces). Armored Equipment. Development perspectives. // “Defense Bulletin”, No. 2, 2010 pages 34-40
3. Order of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine dated August 14, 2013 No. 687-r. “On approval of an additional list of military property of the Armed Forces that may be alienated”
4. Main battle tank T-84 Archived copy dated January 7, 2020 on the Wayback Machine // official website of the Kharkov Mechanical Engineering Design Bureau named after. A. A. Morozova
5. Olga Vaulina. Do peaceful people skimp on defense capabilities?.. // “Mirror of the Week” dated April 21, 1995
6. A. Tarasenko. Comprehensive protection of armored vehicles. Ukrainian approach // “Equipment and weapons”, No. 2, 2007. pp. 10-16
7. Order of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine No. 687-r dated 08/14/2013. “On the approval of the additional transfer of military property of the Armed Forces, which may be alienated” (Order of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine dated August 14, 2013 No. 687-r. “On approval of an additional list of military property of the Armed Forces that may be alienated”)
8. Alexander Basharov. Heirs of “object 478B”. The last tank of the Great Empire // “Military-Industrial Courier”, No. 36 (453) dated September 12, 2012
9. “ The analogue saga did not begin today.
   Back in 2005, also by the decision of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, NSVT and PKT tank machine guns began to be replaced by similar Ukrainian ones - KT-12.7 and KT-7.62. It was about replacing weapons that “exhausted their deadlines and technical service life .” Boris Takaev. No matter how plagiarized the Ukrainian defense industry
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Fraza.ua - the author's view of life

Call sign Ferrum - in 2014-16, a tanker in a mechanized brigade, two higher educations, including military. He is now in the service, and since we look at any criticism as treason, we will not decipher it. I’ll just say my opinion - this is one of the most intelligent Ukrainian soldiers with whom I had the opportunity to communicate during the war.

It is a great honor for us that Ferrum wrote the most important analytical article for Censor.NET. His impressive story clearly demonstrates the problems that were identified during the operation of the old Soviet T-64, the main battle tank of the Ukrainian army. The tankman wrote this article after many years of active attempts to influence with all his might the acceleration of the modernization of Ukrainian tanks and the adoption of conceptually new battle tanks. His story is a polemic with the developers of the T-64 tank at the Kharkov Bureau of Mechanical Engineering (KMDB), as well as with those who plan and finance the modernization of old tanks and the production of new Oplot tanks, which they are now going to purchase for the army as an alternative to the T- 64. This story of a tanker needs to be read thoughtfully, first of all, by those who are planning the defense industry policy of Ukraine.

“Inspired by dialogues with the owners of Oplotov.” It's better to lose with a smart person than to find with a fool. In the winter of 2014, I believed that “they” needed to be given time, time to get comfortable and appreciate their brainchild. You had to pay for your time. I got into a tank hung with two radios, one Motorola and one Baofeng. Both the Motorola and Baofeng had in-ear speakers, over which I put a standard cloth headset. I won’t say that this was a forced measure - it was a consequence of my incompetence. Since at that time I did not know either the characteristics of the Motorola or the Baofeng. I didn’t know anything, I just believed. Yes, in 2014 I believed, believed almost everything they said. I believed that the events of 2014 were needed by someone, not just me and the future of my children. I believed that Motorola was not comparable to Baofeng. Therefore, I hooked a shell of in-ear speakers into each ear, and stuffed two radio stations into my bosom. At the same time, the hatch was always kept open so that the antenna antennas of the radio stations were higher than the level of the hatches. Both of them were sticking out from behind my collar. I was wearing summer overalls in winter, since it was very difficult to get through the hatch opening for both the commander and the gunner in winter ones. But with a radio station in your bosom it’s simply impossible. Therefore, like a penguin, I stuffed my belly into the hatch first, wearing a light overall. Then, at head level, he lowered two radio stations down into the hatch and only then lowered himself. Accordingly, I could only expose my head from the hatch, without a preliminary “striptease”.

I never even loaded the NSVT (12.7 mm machine gun on the T-64 turret. - Yu.B.), since I never saw the point in this unfortunate machine gun with guidance through a spontaneous gearbox and with control from a stupidly protruding handle, grasped for which you will definitely lose your elbow from the recoil of the gun. It was possible to drive with a protective screen only if you were 90% confident in the MZ (the loading mechanism of the tank - Yu.B.) and at the same time you did not have to climb to the fuse (meaning that the protective screen in the turret, which protects against recoil, does not In this case, it will allow you to reload the gun in the loading mechanism manually if necessary - Yu.B.).

With two radio stations in the bosom, it was very difficult to equip the PKT (the second tank machine gun, coaxial with the gun barrel - Yu.B.). Because... Because your tank is crap.

But all this torment was justified because I had a connection. Both with the infantry and with the commander. Back then, even one tank with communications was worth its weight in gold.

I put a headset on top of my head to communicate with the crew. So most of the time I was just slapping myself on the torso, looking for a PTT connection (the intercom through which communication occurs - Yu.B.). It helped, of course, that there was only one tank. The rest refused to sit in this coffin. Or they sat down, but then got lost. And there weren’t that many Motorolas. Volunteers actually bought it for us.

And of course, even then I traveled with a tablet! Even with two. Naturally, I put it outside to determine my location, and warmed it with my own body, because the liquid crystal screen freezes (that is, navigation was through ordinary satellites. - Yu.B.). And in the cold, lithium batteries discharge faster.

They told me, “Be patient. Be patient, Thailand will help us” (new Oplot tanks were delivered to Thailand, the tank crews also expected to receive new vehicles from this delivery. - Yu.B.). And four T-84 tanks in the boxes - they are “freelance” and cannot be touched (T-84 is a Pakistani version of the Oplot tank, it was put into service, several tanks are still at the factory. - Yu.B.) . They are factory made. And you, they say, be patient. And I endured. Volunteers gave us a car. Which always accompanied the tank. We never left the tank in the same place during the active phase (during active hostilities - Yu.B.). And the distance to our overnight stay was always shortened by a volunteer jeep.

I believed then. Still believed.

In the winter of 2015-2016, I learned that modern radio stations would be installed on the T-64. An exciting moment. But... And by spring I no longer believed. But I still hoped. I hoped that the plant would still listen to the requests and pleas. But it turned out that I had to install the “motorrolls” myself. Myself!!! Screw the radio station to the inner lining of the tank with self-tapping screws. Further more. It turned out that communication would only be with the tank commander, and that the tank commander would need to choose who to contact - the crew or the commander. Because the internal communication channel was occupied by the permanent R-123 (an old Soviet analogue station - Yu.B.), which no one was going to remove from the tank. The KhKBM plant did not provide documentation and did not allow changes to be made to the design of the tank. It turned out that the smart guys from the factory recommend powering the Motorola digital radio station from the lighting inside the tank. It turned out that the plant did not give permission for the installation of a Motorroll. That is why the scooters were installed on standard antennas from the R-123. The plant did not give permission to attach the Motorola to the inner lining of the tank without advance payment. And like a fool I tried to work on two radio stations at the same time. Which, of course, is impossible.

Imagine my surprise when I couldn’t hear my own voice in the headset during the transmission. That is, I heard my own voice, but this did not mean at all that the Motorola remained on. Any voltage drop, even such as turning the commander's cupola, led to a silent shutdown of the Motorola. And loss of connection with others. It was so mean, because you didn’t know and don’t know whether the walkie-talkie was working or not.

I also extinguished tanks. The DZ is on fire (dynamic protection of the tank, an explosive that explodes when hit by shells and with its explosion extinguishes the energy of the enemy’s projectile. - Yu.B.) Yes, the DZ “Contact”, which costs a lot of money, lights up when hit by shrapnel and bullets. Especially in summer. Hexogen burns with a bright white flame. It burns because RDX is also rocket fuel. A resin, an ordinary hydrocarbon resin, was added to the composition of the plasticizer in the plates (dynamic protection is installed in the plates. - Yu.B.). It immediately began to flow from under the plates, flowed from the tower into the groove around the turret ring and quickly set fire to the other plates of the remote control. Within 10 minutes the tank caught fire from the inside. It was primarily the outer aluminum tanks with residual fuel and oil that burned. If you do not extinguish the emergency fire in the first five minutes, the tank will burn down. The tank is lost from simple machine gun fire due to the fire of the emergency protection.

Yes, in 2020 I no longer believed it, and told the generals that this is your army, not mine. But I still hoped. I hoped that the contract with Thailand, to the implementation of which I, like no one else in Shchastya (the author at that time was at the front near the city of Shchastya - Yu.B.), put my heart and soul into the fulfillment of this contract, MONEY, a tiny part, will go for the modification of tanks of the Ukrainian army, and the factory workers will install a radio station in the tank. I only asked for a radio station. Only a radio station.

In the spring of 2020, I no longer believed or hoped. But then I thought. Yes, I thought that the experience we gained over two years could be in demand. Tactics, and most importantly logistics. Ammunition, optics, hatches. Everything that cannot be detected at the test site. And what really costs money.

Yes, I was at a meeting on the development of armored vehicles (armored vehicles - Yu.B.). I even took Japanese binoculars with stabilization to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - Yu.B. You see, while shooting from a tank at a distance of over three kilometers, I climbed out of the tank and observed the results through BAK4 and BAK7 class optics. Because not only with the commander’s observation device, but even with this ugly 1G42, I didn’t see a damn thing at such a range. You can't see anything in it.

I didn’t use NSVT at all, and planned my exits only with 250 rounds of PKT ammunition. Since after installing the “motorola”, it is very difficult to replace the box with tapes (the NSVT machine gun on the roof of the tank turret is installed openly, cartridges are fed from the boxes, it is very inconvenient to do this - Yu.B.). And lose visibility for 5 minutes in battle... Yes, I’d rather be without a machine gun.

I told them that for better shooting I turn off the fire control system (fire control system - Yu.B.). Since the stabilizer is not able to cope with an unbalanced turret (the T-64 turret is not structurally balanced, since 2/3 of the weight falls on the front part of the turret. The concept of small armored space. - Yu.B.). And shells, of which there are catastrophically few in the MZ, fly anywhere when the fire control system is turned on, unless, of course, you shoot at 1000 meters.

I shot much more often without a fire control system and shot as a backup. Since it was necessary to change the position of the fuse depending on the situation.

Yes, then I thought that vast experience would help, if not me, then it would help them, the breeders, make money. Because they will be able to sell the tank as a finished product, already with experience of use in combat.

I watched with a smile as they tried to install an expensive thermal imager into the tank instead of a night light with a first-generation image intensifier tube. But at the same time they absolutely did not want to remove the “Luna” headlight from the tank. Yes, this is such a huge crap in the frontal plane of the tower, which only makes sense with a first-generation night light. Which simply don’t exist in nature anymore. Thermal imager with “Luna” headlight.

In February 2020, I marched to Marinka, the outskirts of Donetsk. For some reason it was very cold then. At night you drive across the field solely on the tablet. You ride on top, sticking your body out of the hatch. That’s why my fingers were frostbitten, and after three trips I caught a cold and fell down with a temperature of about 40. Because I marched 50 km a night and was on duty in the field, hugging this hobbit tank. But always, when we were skating, always, the opposite side behaved very quietly. So it was necessary to do this.

Due to the disgusting visibility, I knocked down a high-voltage pole while performing a night march. The tank miraculously did not explode, the tank sparkled like a Christmas tree. I was crushed under the mast of a power line support, a rib was broken, and it was a shame to die under the mast in the night field.

And the analog TPU, if the cloth headset gets wet, starts to shock. It is very painfully unpleasant when your headset shocks you in the back of the head.

Visibility at night is zero. Communication is also lost, since the homemade IP-1 units (an intermediary device between the TPU and the Motorola) fail at minus 10 degrees, and the antenna from the R-123 has too high wave resistance to use more than 10 watts of transmitting power from 40 watts, which are guaranteed by the excellent Motorola.

In 2017, KMDB reminded of its existence. Sort of a complex of “menshovartism”. There was a tank biathlon in Europe. And they sent 4 tanks there. And of course, radio stations and a new digital control center were installed on these tanks within two weeks (!!!). They even installed a navigation tablet. They did all this in a week. In just a week for show, they installed everything that had been asked of them for the past three years.

Tell me why I should give senile people 5 million dollars for ONE Oplot tank, if with this money I can restore 10 identical tanks and, in addition, hire a support platoon with equipment. Fully.

Well, they deceived the Thais, to hell with it. But how are they going to deceive me? After all, I am the consumer of their technology. I'm a consumer. And I don’t see any difference between the Oplot and the T-64!

What difference could there be?

1 The weapons are the same

2 LMS are the same

3 Power supply is the same

4 Protection? Yes, Oplot's defense is better. But this is only against NATO ammunition. The Oplot's defense is better only against long armor-piercing sub-caliber projectiles. But neither we nor the Russians have them. Neither we nor the separatists have such ammunition. We all shoot HE. High-explosive fragmentation. But for this type of projectile, remote sensing does not play a role. Quite the contrary. DZ "Contact", the plates of which have a mass of hexogen in one plate of less than 400 grams, cannot detonate due to thermal expansion. But if there are more hexes in one piece, then it will become impossible to extinguish such a fire. It will detonate. And, of course, he will kill the fireman.

Why is Oplot better than the T-64? He's no better.

Why is Oplot better than 100 (one hundred) T-64BV tanks restored for the same money (this is the average budget for troubleshooting and restoration)?

If we are talking about modernizing tanks and tanks for anti-terrorist operations, the first thing the country must do is:

1. This is to take away the copyright for the T-64 tank. Requisition. Because the current leadership of the Malyshev KMDB has nothing to do with that tank. If you, in this case I’m talking about the country’s leadership, were able to requisition school buses for the needs of the ATO in 2014, they took them away from children. What prevents you, the country’s leadership, from taking away a tank from people whose mental abilities have long since returned to preschool age. Take and requisition the copyright for the documentation of the T-64 tank. Take the documentation from these idiots

2. And give companies with different types of ownership the opportunity to modernize the Ukrainian tank fleet. You have at least two tank repair plants. And there are plenty of studios that can and want to work with armored steels.

What needs to be changed in the T-64:

1. Communication and visibility. Communication and Visibility. Communication and visibility.

2. Then you need to change the hatches. These are simple modules that have no military secrets.

3. The next step is a new tower. What we have is no good. The tower should be:

— welded from structural armor steel. The tower must be able to attach heavy armor with programmable destruction.

— The tower must be balanced. The gun trunnions should be behind the turret ring.

— The tower must have knockout panels

Look at how the unbalanced turret sways and what angles the gun takes away from the aiming line even at this speed and range, and keep in mind that on the Oplot the turret is even heavier and still unbalanced, and the stabilization system of both the gun and the aiming line is absolutely similar to a tank T-64. Absolutely!!! They have the same fire control system (fire control system - Yu.B.).

On T-64 tanks and their latest ones, the concept does not allow making a balanced turret - the engine will overheat simply because there will not be enough electricity from a weak generator.

This does not require secrecy. Need not. But KMDB is not even needed for this. KMDB, in its current form, only does harm.

Three years have passed. I had already forgotten about KMDB. But during this time the Chinese made a decent tank. And they pushed the senile people out of the markets of third countries. Forever. So they remembered me. And now they want to sell me their mentality at a high price.

I don't fucking need you. From the word in general. And take your “Oplot” for yourself.

Because “It’s better to lose with a smart person than to find with a fool.”
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