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I myself have owned LGS for a year and a half and LKS-2 for six months, they have the same problems and Kalina doesn’t drive like Granta)) kert yita megar datsar ush))) my advice to you is tuning Priora-2
I would choose LGS)
My transmission doesn't howl after an oil change...
What kind of oil did you pour into the gearbox?
ZIC G-FF 75/85 at 2700 mileage and at 6500 mileage there is silence in the box. I have been using this oil for 10 years, it has been tested that both the gearbox and the engine are synthetic 5w 40
It seems to me that you need to take a car that, on the hardest day, you can rummage in your pocket and find money for repairs (in short, as possible). and LKS or LGS is who likes it better
DEAR RICHMOND95 I SINCERELY WISH YOU WITH ALL my SOUL TO FIND THE BEST CAR
Thank you very much...
Now LKS2 is a little cheaper + the interior is more interesting, and there is a semblance of climate. If you don't need a trunk, LKS2 is better
If you need a trunk, take it to Grant. If you don't need it, take Kalina. Well, Kalina has a cooler interior.
Made from the same parts
they are the same, and the sores are the same only from the point of view of what you like more outwardly, if you really want sports, then I think viburnum, with the inscription sport, it smells more like sports =)
both in this and in the other there will be one and the same sores) the box there also howls like on the NFR
Neither one nor the other. Buy a budget foreign car or a Polo sedan or Solaris, Rio. But in extreme cases, I will tell you if there is not enough for a normal set.
oh yeah, I forgot and vw polo goes to shitty foreign cars
Neither one nor the other. Buy a budget foreign car or a Polo sedan or Solaris, Rio. But in extreme cases, I will tell you if there is not enough for a normal set.
Salaris and Car Rio are complete shit, there’s no point in saying a lot about them, I’ll say one thing along the highway, they throw a coffin on wheels like shit into an ice hole, in one word, SHIT FOREIGN CARKS
Well, it’s not shit, but it’s already outselling the grant, I told myself I’ll never drive a VAZ again. There are many reasons for this.
In no case do I want to offend anyone, everyone chooses a car to their liking, but I personally owned them, Salaris and Rio and VW Polo (I sold them without thinking and I never remember about this crap and I won’t advise anyone to buy them) THAT’S WHY I SPEAK ABOUT THEM LIKE THIS! For example, take any child of AvtoVAZ, it has never been thrown along the highway, I think the owners of AvtoVAZ will completely agree with me! PEACE AND GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE ON THE ROAD!
“Hot” or “charged” versions of serial sedans and small hatchbacks are produced by many automakers. The most famous are Golf R from VW, Focus ST from Ford , Civic TypeR from Honda. These cars are distinguished by a more dynamic exterior, a faster engine, a reinforced suspension and specific programs for the electronic control units of the power unit and transmission, for example, a controlled drift system.
The Volzhsky Automobile Plant, trying to stay on trend, in 2013 began production of a modification of the Lada Granta - Granta Sport. An experimental sample was demonstrated back in 2011. The presence of alternatives implies a choice problem: which Grant option is better to purchase and by what criteria to carry out a comparative assessment.
What we have as a result: differences between Grants and Kalina
Both models together cover all consumer demand for a variety of body styles. The latest, second, generation of Kalina is available in station wagon and hatchback body styles. And the second-generation Granta bodies are now available in sedan, hatchback, liftback and station wagon. Each of them has its own advantages. For example, access to the trunk of a sedan eliminates the flow of cold air in winter, and when loading and unloading things, people in the cabin do not have to freeze. "Kalina 2" is additionally equipped with climate control and other useful options.
Author: Maxim Golenetskikh
What car would you buy? Share your opinion in the comments below the article.
Lada Granta Sport is an aggressive, dynamic, but not a new car
The “charged” Granta was produced from 2013 to 2018 . Now AvtoVAZ is promoting Kalina NFR R1 and Vesta Sport , although the past merits and popularity of Grants pushed the domestic manufacturer to restyling the model. It is assumed that the updated cars will be released in the summer of 2021, but in fact there is only equipment that is at least a year old, and the official website remains absolutely silent regarding Granta Sport sales.
Naturally, the Granta Sport, which went on wide sale, is not a real sports car, but only a good stylization of it . To illustrate: the Granta Sport, which took part in the world touring car championship, had a 320-horsepower engine, and the production model had a 120-horsepower engine. However, a “hot” sedan gives its owner the opportunity to stand out from the crowd of vehicles of the same type, declare his individuality, and implement an active driving style.
Common features of Grants and Grants Sports
The body (its metal frame) is the same for both models. “Sportiness” is achieved only through design: original bumpers, deflector, door sills.
The overall dimensions of the crankcases of the main units are identical, i.e. the designers did not need to change the coordinates of their attachment points. The 16-valve gasoline engines of the compared cars are absolutely no different in appearance, the only difference is in the camshaft and ECU settings. The 5-speed manual gearbox and final drive are similar in design, but the gear ratios on the sports version have been changed with an eye to better acceleration dynamics.
In terms of equipment with specific options, the Grant Sport is quite comparable to the regular Grant, albeit in a luxury configuration. Both cars have a parking system, ABS+BAS, climate control, audio system, windshield wiper with rain sensor, heated front seats and windshield, electric heating and electric outside mirrors, electric power steering, etc.
What's wrong with Lada Kalina and Lada Granta
No matter how hard the domestic tried, it didn’t happen. Both cars have their drawbacks, which apply equally to both models.
The quality of the interior trim leaves much to be desired. The plastic creaks and scratches easily. But the updated Kalina 2 received a number of improvements, based on the experience of Grants. There are fewer creaks in the cabin, and the sound insulation is better.
The lack of anti-corrosion treatment of the metal is also not long in coming. Rust appears in places where stones and gravel are chipped if these areas are not touched up.
Separately, in Kalina 1, drivers noted the uncomfortable front seats. Due to the lack of lumbar support, drivers' backs became tired on long trips. This problem has been fixed in the updated second version. And although the design of the suspension and steering of the cars is almost the same, the steering rack of the Kalina 2 often breaks.
It is necessary to dwell separately on the Grants generator, since it fails on almost all cars produced in the first half of 2012. Owners complain that the breakdown is detected after 3-5 thousand kilometers, and dealer service stations refuse to fix it, citing a lack of spare parts.
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Differences between Sport Grants and Grants
The comparison, ideally, should be made on models of the same year of manufacture, but the basic Granta is already available in a restyled version, and the “hot” version has not been produced since the summer of 2021. Therefore, for a complete and objective picture, all innovations must be taken into account.
Engine
- Due to modified valve timing, reduced intake and exhaust resistance, and adjusted firmware of the control unit, the VAZ-21126 engine produces 120 hp . versus 98 hp on the untuned version. True, the Lada Granta can also be supplied with engines of 87 (8-valve) and 106 hp .
- The speed characteristics of the Granta Sport internal combustion engine (power and torque curves) are designed for intensive growth after 3000 rpm , i.e. The power unit is “tailored” to operate at high speeds.
- The engines of restyled cars of 2021 differ favorably from models of previous releases by the presence of shockless (“stickless”) pistons, which eliminate valve damage when the camshaft drive belt breaks.
Transmission
- Unlike the base model, which can have three transmission options, the sports Grant uses only mechanics , but the final drive ratio is made more traction (4.30 instead of 3.71). This allows you to increase the intensity of acceleration.
- The updated 2021 cars also received a new main gear ( 3.94 instead of 3.71 ). The robotic gearbox has been improved: gear shifting has become faster, and the software provides “crawling” (“urban”) and “sport” modes.
Chassis
- Shortened Grant Sport springs reduced the ground clearance from 160 to 145 mm . Shifting the rear axle beam mounts increased the wheelbase by 14 mm.
- The sports version uses gas-assisted shock absorbers with modified damping characteristics.
- The conveyor Granta is sold with rims of 13, 14 and 15 inches , “charged” - 16 inches with Yokohama 195/50R tires
What's good about Lada Kalina and Lada Granta
Both models have an average ground clearance of 160 mm. This is enough to avoid getting caught in snow tracks in winter, but when parking near the curb you have to be careful: you can get caught in the overhang of the front bumper.
The suspension in both cases is energy-intensive, does not break through on bumps, but also does not allow excessive swaying during maneuvers. Both models handle simply, without any frills, but not in the same way as the “classic” car when cornering.
Spare parts for both cars are cheap and available in auto stores. A generator, for example, costs 4,000 rubles, and a complete set of improved silent blocks and bushings for the entire suspension will cost 3,500 rubles. The simple design of the cars allows repairs to be made at any service center without special unique tools.
The engines of both cars are quite economical. Fuel consumption for the engine is 87 l. With. and manual transmission - about 7 liters in mixed mode. Therefore, if the driver plans to travel frequently, but does not want to overpay for fuel, purchasing any of the AvtoVAZ models will be a practical option.
Car enthusiasts also characterize the automatic robotic gearbox as reliable and easy to maintain.
Both Lada Kalina and Lada Granta have a very warm stove in winter. AvtoVAZ’s many years of experience in producing cars for the Russian climate is telling.
But if you need a car for frequent transportation of goods, then the Kalina station wagon will be a more suitable choice. Its luggage compartment volume is 670 liters versus 520 liters for the Granta.
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Which Grant should I choose?
- If you don’t want to wait for the Granta Sport to be restyled, then on the secondary market its price is comparable to new models of the base car ( 400 - 500 thousand rubles ). Here it is important for a potential buyer to decide how much of an active drive fan he is.
- You need to consider what roads the purchased car will be driven on. Even though the suspension of the Granta Sport is stiffer, the reduced ground clearance threatens costly problems, for example, damage to the gearbox housing or elements of the engine exhaust system.
- The undoubted advantage of Grants Sport is the assembly method . This is not the main conveyor belt of AvtoVAZ, but a separate enterprise that assembles up to 10 cars per shift. It is clear that with smaller production volumes it is much easier to guarantee quality.
- The buyer of a serial Lada Granta, unlike the buyer of a “charged” car, has a wider choice (remember about 14 trim levels).
The design of cars is constantly being improved. Just a year of absence from the market and competitors are already catching up, increasing the volume of offered options. In 2021, Granta Sport still retains certain advantages, but without quality modernization they are very easy to lose.
We were able to compare not even two, but all three of their fastest models, and even on the test track. Since we are talking about sports, based on the results of the test drive, we distribute all three “hot” VAZ models to places on the virtual podium. And we start with “bronze”.
3rd place. LADA Granta Sport
Only Granta sedans are sporty, this is explained simply. They are assembled in Tolyatti, and the sports department involved in fine-tuning these machines is located there. Liftbacks are assembled in Izhevsk, so they can’t make friends with sports. Although, in my personal opinion, the five-door body has a racing character closer to it. Moreover, I had the opportunity to see such a “Grant” in Izhevsk, but, as I was told, there are only a few individual copies assembled to VIP order.
The massive stern is what did not benefit this car. Photo: Andrey GRECHANNIK
You expect a low stance from a “hot” car, but there is nothing like that here. You sit high, upright. The seats have lateral support, but not very pronounced, and the seat cushion is a bit short. But the trimmed steering wheel is nicer to the touch than the standard one.
The main thing, of course, is the engine. It’s all lies when they say there’s a turbine there. She doesn't exist. There are different camshafts, different firmware of the “brains” (ECU), a different design of the intake system, an exhaust manifold with an increased cross-section of the passage channels. All this together gave the engine an increase to 114 hp. With. power. Plus eight forces relative to the base 106. Probably, if you fill it with 92-grade gasoline, you won’t feel the difference at all. And you need to fill it with 95, it is recommended by the manufacturer.
Granta Sport can only be a sedan. Photo: Andrey GRECHANNIK
During normal driving you won’t feel any crazy “stupidity”. Acceleration is more dynamic compared to the regular version, but this is more due to the change in the final drive gear ratio: 4.3 instead of 3.9. And the box is the same - 5-speed manual. The suspension is stiffer, that’s a fact, and the tires are also low profile – we had standard Pirelli 195/50 R16. But the car doesn’t steer at all in a sporty way, not even once! So go out onto the straight line, rev the engine to high speeds, and only there - near the red zone of the tachometer - do you get your pleasure. 9.5 seconds to 100 km/h.
Granta Sport's dynamics will not scare you. Photo: Andrey GRECHANNIK
2nd place. LADA Kalina Sport
The “charged” Kalina is much more interesting. It would seem that it’s exactly the same engine, the same 114 horsepower, the same gearbox, the same wheels, equal performance in dynamics and ground clearance. But the feeling is completely different.
