Which engine is better: 1.5 liter 8-cl. or 1.6 l 8-cl?
When choosing a car, people often ask the question: “Which engine is better?” In our case, everything is not so simple. A similar question may arise if we consider buying a car from already “shaggy” years: 2006-2007. It was during this period that VAZ-2113, 2114 and 2115 were equipped with both 1.6 liter and 1.5 liter engines, the characteristics of which are outlined above.
In fact, they are no different, except for volume, exhaust standards, fuel supply systems and a pair of sensors. Therefore, the main distinguishing point is the engine size. A difference of 0.1 liters gives more torque from the bottom, adds a little maximum power and, perhaps, the same or even lower fuel consumption than 1.5 liters. The only negative is that it is noisier at idle.
Previously, in the years 2008-2012, people were reluctant to buy 1.6 liter models, saying they were loud, prone to breakdowns, etc. In fact, it is superior to the 1.5 liter engine in all respects. Accordingly, we recommend it to you. But this applies to 8-grade students. motors that were installed serially. Next, let's look at 16-cl.
Description 2114
VAZ 2114 or “Chetyrka” is a popular front-wheel drive five-door hatchback that replaced the VAZ 2109 in 2001. This car is part of the Samara 2 series, along with the three-door VAZ 2113 and the VAZ 2115 sedan.
The VAZ 2114 itself is a restyling of the old nine, nothing more. The main differences can be seen in the somewhat modernized appearance and interior. The engines have remained virtually unchanged, only slightly becoming more modern (the carburetor was replaced with an injector).
The VAZ 2113 was produced until 2013, but already in 2011 the more modern Lada Granta appeared, which within a couple of years occupied the niche of the affordable Lada. Nevertheless, among the people, the VAZ 2114 continues to be in serious demand.
The cars were equipped with 2114 1.5 liter injection engines as standard. and 1.6 l. 8 valves. With the participation of Super-Auto CJSC, powerful versions with 16 valves were produced. The VAZ 2114 with the 21124 engine bore the VAZ 211440-24 index, and with the Priora engine - 211440-26.
VAZ 2114 super car with which engine is better
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VAZ 2114 with 124 or 126 engine?
Post by GRAFko » Oct 25, 2011, 10:38 am
124 engine, 89 mares from 12k. 126 engine, 98 mares from Priora.
I called Fedyuninsky, the difference in price is 8000 rubles.
Tell me, does anyone have any impressions of the engines, are there any owners? On the Priora engine they say the valves are bent due to a broken belt.
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Post by Nikolaich » Oct 25, 2011, 10:45 am
GRAFko, Take the 124 engine, 89mares from 12k. I took 14 of these myself on February 23, 2011. V
— Engine 21124 1.6 16v — Gearbox 2170 — Front struts 2170 — Rear struts 2170 — Strut supports 2170
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Post by GRAFko » Oct 25, 2011, 10:55 am
Nikolaich, I also want it from Super-Avto, can you tell me where I got it?
Maybe someone has experience with both engines at the same time? 9 mares should give agility to the basin
on the forums they write that 8.89 at stock up to 100 km/h
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Posted by Camelot » Oct 25, 2011 10:57 am
124
I ride myself
if you need agility, turn it off and throw out the catalyst, it’s cheaper than 8 thousand)
well, in general - she has enough in stock, you’ll fly away
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GRAFko wrote: Nikolaich, I also want it from Super-Avto, can you tell me where I got it?
Maybe someone has experience with both engines at the same time? 9 mares should give agility to the basin
on the forums they write that 8.89 at stock up to 100 km/h
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Super car appearance
Despite the new model releases, there are few differences between them in terms of body appearance.
External changes: the front part of the body, the shape of the lenses, the hood, the radiator grille, better quality plastic on the bumper, spoilers, moldings and linings on the hood have changed.
After additional improvements in 2011, the super car received an increased ground clearance of 5 mm.
The weight of the vehicle is 970 kg, the load capacity is 425 kg and the ground clearance is 160 mm.
The VAZ 2114 vehicle has changed in many ways over time and differs from its predecessors in its new interior design and updated appearance.
It is equipped with external mirrors that have a rectangular shape, thanks to them the driver can better control the current situation on the road. The doors on super cars are equipped with special mechanisms for more convenient opening. It is equipped with wheels of 13 radius, which, if necessary, can be easily changed to a larger radius.
Modified headlights are built into the rear of the car; they have 3 types of brake lights, reverse and turn signals. The updated super car currently has a spoiler, it allows you to increase road grip and dynamic data of the car. This is a surprise for any car owner, since this element is installed immediately at the car factory before release.
General technical specifications
Individual technical characteristics that distinguish the “fourteenth” hatchback from its predecessors are the parameters of the five-door body. Its length is 4,122 meters, width – 1,650 m, height – 1,402 m. The car differs from the base model (VAZ 21093) by a slight extension. Machine weight – 985 kg.
The wheelbase is characterized by a width of the front wheels of 1.4 meters, the rear wheels – 1.37 meters. The trunk (with the rear seat up) has a volume of 330 dm³, with the rear seat folded down – 600 dm³.
The clearance from the asphalt to the crankcase is 160 mm, to the pan the clearance is 10 mm more.
Engine 1.6 l, 8-cl. (Euro-3) Length, mm 4122 Width, mm 1650 Height, mm 1402 Base, mm 2460 Front wheel track, mm 1400 Rear wheel track, mm 1370 Luggage compartment volume, dm 3330 Curb weight, kg 985 Gross vehicle weight, kg 1410 Permissible gross weight of a towed trailer with brakes, kg 75 0Permissible gross weight of the lettered trailer without brakes , kg300Wheel formula/drive wheels4x2/frontCar layout front-wheel drive, engine arrangement front, transverseBody type/number of doorshatchback/4Engine typegasoline, four-strokePower systemDistributed injection with electronic controlNumber and arrangement of cylinders4, in-lineEngine displacement, cm 31596Maximum power, kW/rpm59.5/ 5200 Maximum torque, Nm at rpm 120 / 2700 Unleaded gasoline AI-92 (min) Fuel consumption in the driving cycle, l / 100 km 7.6 Maximum speed, km/h 160 Gearbox Manually controlled Number of gears 5 forward, 1 reverse Gear ratio of the main pair 3.7 or 3 ,9The steering is safety, rack and pinion type, without power assistance. Tires 175/70R13-80(T,N) 165/70R13-79(S,T) Fuel tank capacity 43 litersInterior of super car VAZ 2114
The interior decoration of the super car VAZ 2114 was made of inexpensive but high-quality materials. From the first point of view of the happy owners of such a car, it can be classified as luxury, since it has an on-board computer, heated front seats, power windows and fog lights.
The on-board computer displays complete information about the remaining number of liters of fuel in the gas tank, the exact number of kilometers that can still be driven. The steering wheel can be easily adjusted to suit you for more comfortable driving of the super car. Inside the car dealership, the developers installed a more modern heating system.
Europanel is equipped with 2 liquid crystal displays. On the left side of the instrument panel there is a sensor for determining the engine temperature. With its help, the driver will easily prevent overheating of the internal combustion engine and power unit. This sensor is designed in the form of a scale, followed by a tachometer, it has a round shape.
The central panel inside the cabin is equipped with emergency signs; when the car is functioning properly, it looks like a dark stripe. Due to the updated panel, the internal ventilation of the cabin has improved, while obvious problems with the air supply to the side deflectors have been eliminated. Car seats in super cars are covered with fabric, which over the years begins to become very worn.
Just like any other car, the presented model is equipped with seat belts. In the cabin, an adjustable light was installed on the ceiling to provide full interior illumination. The rear windows are not automatic, but manual. Basically, car owners try to combat extraneous noise in the cabin and use special materials for this. As a result of this improvement, the car greatly increases in weight.
VAZ 2114 – engine 11183 1.6 MT 82 hp.
Manufacturer information
This configuration is also available with an engine with a manual transmission and front-wheel drive. The maximum speed of the car remained the same as with the 21114 engine, the power also remained almost unchanged - 82 hp. Average fuel consumption rarely exceeds 7.8 liters.
Other cars: STARTER. What is a starter
About gasoline consumption
- Dima, Voronezh. I received a 2009 model as a gift. If you don't glue everything at once, then absolutely everything in the car rattles. Average fuel consumption on city roads is 10 liters, no more. Now I use it for taxi work.
- Ruslan, Moscow. I bought a used 2007 model 2 years ago. with 100 thousand miles. I made a major overhaul and now I'm enjoying it. The power is not very good, neither is the appearance, but it’s good enough for work. On the highway, about 6 liters are spent.
- Alexander, Kyiv. In winter, the car consumes 1.5 liters more than in summer. And so everything suits us - our usual van with the usual technical data. Until I get enough money, I’ll drive to a foreign car.
- Ivan, Chelyabinsk. Its engine is weak, everything else is fine. I've been riding for about a year, but I've noticed that the consumption is different all the time. On average it turns out to be about 8 liters.
- Sergey, St. Petersburg. My wife and I take turns driving, the car often breaks down, and we’re tired of taking it to the service station. It's better to spend money and buy something more impressive. The consumption was 7.5 liters.
Technical characteristics of super car 2114
Powertrain super car
For 10 years, the VAZ 2114 super car has been equipped with several internal combustion engine options.
From the very beginning it is worth mentioning the 1.5 liter and 8 valve engine, it produced 78 hp. Fuel consumption of the internal combustion engine of the super car VAZ 2114 was 7.3 liters of fuel for every 100 km with mixed driving. After car factories began installing injection engines on the VAZ 2114, its power increased. But if you look at it from the other side, his gasoline consumption has decreased.
Review of LADA (VAZ) Samara 2013 - The fastest and most powerful of the 2114 16 valve.
My car is very dynamic, comfortable in the cabin. The exterior is very beautiful, as it has classic shapes without any biodesign. It's a shame that it's being discontinued. I am sure that this is not due to the obsolescence of the model. The world also knew cars that had been in production for much longer. Take the Niva or the Zhuk, for example. That’s why they say that it has become a competitor to Grants and Kalinas, with which all dealer sites in the country are filled to capacity. So I wrote a brief technical description of my car. I tried to be as similar as possible to a competent and clear expression of all the advantages. The Lada 2114 Super Auto is only superficially similar to the production car VAZ 2114. The Lada 2114 Super Auto has a 16-valve engine 21124 (the valves do not bend), fuel consumption in the urban cycle is 7 liters . The engine has an imported timing system, a lightweight cylinder-piston group, a MAN pump, the gas pedal has a cable drive, and a VALEO clutch with an increased disc diameter and increased pedal softness is installed. The leg doesn't get tired. Clutch service life is 150 thousand km. .The Lada 2114 Super Auto has a 2170 (Priora) gearbox. This gearbox is distinguished from serial ones by manual assembly, selection of gears, installation of sealed bearings. The gearbox on this vehicle is free from vibrations, hums and noise, the service life has been increased to 300 thousand km.
The gear shift system has short throws and clear detent. The car is equipped with reinforced (sports) type drives and CV joints using grenades from a German manufacturer.
The chassis on our car is installed entirely from the VAZ 2170 (PRIORA), which includes Priora front and rear struts, springs of variable stiffness, Priora support bearings, and a completely Priora rear beam. The front stabilizer has been increased in diameter from 1.5 to 2.2 mm.
A brace is installed between the front pillars, increasing torsional rigidity of the body.
As a result of using the Priora chassis, the ground clearance of this car increased by 7 cm compared to the usual 2114 and became equal to the Niva’s ground clearance.
The hubs are equipped with bearings from the Japanese manufacturer TOKIKO, the service life of which is 200 thousand km.
Due to the increase in engine power and maximum speed, the car received enhanced brakes and front ventilated brake discs.
In turn, with an increase in the diameter of the brake discs, 14th radius wheels are installed on the car. Tires have dimensions from 175/60/14 to 185/70/14.
The car's exhaust system received a catalyst manifold, which is installed in the engine compartment, and does not hang down almost half a meter like in conventional VAZ models.
The steering has a rack with a variable gear ratio, which greatly facilitates maneuvering in difficult urban conditions.
The cars are equipped with central locking on all doors, electric glass lifts, a third additional brake light, a rear wiper, a heater motor with increased airflow intensity (imported), mud flaps for all four wheels and dirt-proof plastic lockers, athermal glass, including the windshield (light tinted). blue color according to GOST).
Engine power 90 hp
Maximum speed 190 km/h
Fuel consumption is 5 liters per 100 km – highway, 7 liters / 100 km – city.
Fuel grade -95.
I hope I described everything clearly and understandably. I think that VAZ will regret more than once that the Fourteenth was discontinued from production. It was the most inexpensive and fashionable car. Thanks to everyone. Dmitry.
Advantages and disadvantages of super cars
Each car, regardless of the manufacturer and type of model, has its own advantages and disadvantages, including the super car VAZ 2114.
Advantages: good aerodynamics, good appearance, playful power plants, good ground clearance, in demand by young people, great opportunities for tuning, initially the base car has a small and stylish rear stall, front-wheel drive, high stability, the bumper is painted completely to match the body color, enlarged wear resistance of the suspension, europanel on-board computer, heated front seats, front electric windows, low cost, cast wheels, adjustable steering wheel, easy repairs, low fuel consumption.
Cons: door handles often fail, the plastic bumper breaks easily, the car quickly rots, there is little free space inside the cabin, a weak level of security, the car does not have air conditioning or power steering, poor build quality, there is little space in the trunk.
Owner reviews
Most owners of the super car VAZ 2114 emphasize its modern and attractive appearance. Compared to old foreign cars, this car is cheaper, and according to other reviews from car enthusiasts, this hatchback is easy to drive. The car of the domestic automobile industry is not fastidious in maintenance. You can buy inexpensive parts for it in auto stores.
During the improvement, the power unit turned out to be quite playful.
Also, car owners note the new height of ground clearance, because it now allows them to use the car not only for city trips, but also the ability to drive out of town.
For all car enthusiasts who like to make various improvements to their cars with their own hands, in other words, perform tuning. It is ideal for such car owners to make various upgrades to it, both externally and internally.
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Lada 2114 Ezhikha › Logbook › SWAP. 16v engine replacement in action!
In the last entry there was a little seed. Now I’ll tell you more about it! Well, let’s go!
So, from the moment I bought my prickly car, I had thoughts of how to make this bitch faster, angrier, more aggressive! Because it really infuriates you when a 1.4 ass makes you out of a traffic light, something nasty 1.2, some Camry 2.0. And most importantly, nothing There’s nothing you can do about it, except close the window, but there’s no point, the door is still open, I help with the acceleration with my foot.
No, the eight-valve 11183-50 is exceptionally good: diesel traction from the bottom, good acceleration up to 120 inclusive, extremely reliable, easy to maintain (you can piss in the engine and nothing will happen to it)
But he's not for me! When it hits 4000 on the tachometer, it simply stops accelerating as I need it to! I really love this engine, but it's time to replace it with something more interesting.
How to properly tune a vosmiclop? The correct way is to match it to gear! I didn’t want to look at the 120 engine, I wasn’t happy with the power of the 124. I was left with 126 and 128. Well, I really wanted the 1.8, but the prices are just space. Well, to hell with it! 126 is also not bad
In general, I bought a motor in “pig in a poke” condition for a very modest 7 kilo rubles. Not bad, right? So I thought it was good.
However, not everything is so good. That same evening, when I opened the engine, I discovered that they were going to the trash heap: timing pump, 14 valves, life is a pain
I scattered it, and for 2 weeks I walked around the pile of pieces of iron, thinking what to do with them, and most importantly, when. But it must be done! I decided to start with the block
Purchased top-of-the-line components
I decided to try the Luzar turbo pump and I was not mistaken, the stove is hot, the car does not heat up at all.
As I said earlier, 14 valves had to be thrown out. Well, okay, let’s install new ones, AMP.
I decided to assemble the motor on the table and hang it in the car.
Having assembled the block + head, screwed on the timing belt, which, by the way, is an original Gates
We stuff it all into the car.
As practice has shown, the engine + gearbox rest quietly on the 2 cushions located at the gearbox, so it’s easiest to screw the front one on by hanging the motor. Assembling the attachment is not interesting. All sorts of tricky specialists will foam at the mouth to assure you that in order to remove the receiver you will need to bend your arms in stiff places, pray to everyone and everything, and so on. We make it easier - unscrew the front airbag and raise the engine half a meter .Here are the bolts and nuts, tighten them, it’s really a problem to push your head in there. The rest is just that, seeds, for 3 hours of work with smoke breaks.
